ext_2510 ([identity profile] ithiliana.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] otw_news 2008-02-03 04:00 am (UTC)

Henry? Well maybe he remembers my name.

In which case he remembers I posted about how one of my papers took on a generalization he made about women creating fanfiction because they were forced to watch all the masculine shows and brought romance in, and I was writing about women who loved sf (and never agreed it was for boy's only) and wrote dark stuff and porn and action stuff--a minority among fen, and stories, but still, contradicting him. The *only* post he made on the fandebate community was to "inform" me that he'd written a lot more since that piece was published, and it wasn't fair to only work from that perspective, and I had to read all his work.

And he'd probably also remember I showed up calling a lot of the men in that debate sexists and got them very mad at me, including some of his best buddies and ex-students. I esp. remember one of his ex students who got roundly corrected by a number of women for not knowing that the novel used to be dominated by women, back a century or two. An MA in media studies does not give you knowledge about the history of the novel, but he thought he could spout off and claim that it was always written by men.

And since that debate--well, did you notice the article about OTW that cited Henry only? He didn't give that writer any other names, although I gather he didn't realize he was the only person being referenced. But no, I don't think he will give my name to anybody (the journalist I mentioned I talked to the other day? Was referred by a woman scholar who was referred by a woman scholar.)

And let me be clear too: he's in a different discipline than I am--we don't publish in the same types of journals or attend the same conferences. I don't go to the media conferences, and don't care too, so it doesn't matter that I spouted off.

There are two men I know who'd probably refer people to me, in that situation, both academics, one queer, one a feminist, and neither does fan studies (in fact, they're such good friends they wrote me letters for my slashing proposal). They do science fiction--although one is sneaking over into fanzines as well as pulp zines, using archival material (the OLDer fan productions). The other does children's lit and the fantastic.

However, the vast majority of time networking is done, that I have benefitted from, it's from women.

I was the one saying why bother with the aca-fan debate, I don't care about bringing the boys in, or spending time educating them, I want to create networks among the women because my experience in academia is that 99% of the time, it's women who'll support other women, recommend them, etc.

Showing up and calling the men sexist does not get one referrals, but I really didn't give a damn. Actually, I got a nice invite to read a paper on slash because women who were lurking and reading at that debate liked how I kept calling the guys on their sexism (and tried to bring in the subject of racism).


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