IIRC this was discussed in the original post in astolat's journal and thought was leaning towards having a theoretical but not actual system of age-restricted material
I must have missed that; I'll go look for it, thank you. The proposed 'theoretical' system would work and is essentially one of the option I foresaw.
My thoughts on this are also mixed. I didn't really get into fandom much before I was 18 and in my first fandom, I wasn't really interested in adult material so it was non-issue. However, my friend, who's been in fandom for almost 15 years was definitely underage when she got involved. I don't know what the answer is. The library isn't going to restrict books to children based on their perceived appropriateness for the age; they expect the parents to do that.
Unfortunately, for some reason, parents seem to think that they aren't responsible for what their children see online, the website is. It's an unfair double standard, but it's one we have to deal with.
And I wonder what the response is to under-18s writing the porn...! I considered this, but I have no idea as to the answer. You can't stop underage people writing things based on age-appropriateness, but if you let them post them and don't let them read it seems hypocritical; I know. Search me on how to deal with it.
Yeah, but on an indirect harm principle - that something about the content will lead to children being harmed - as opposed to a direct harm principle where children are actually harmed by the existence of porn/the reading of porn.
I agree in relation to this latest issue, but I do think that a group of "concerned parentz" could hit an archive based on the "providing pornography to minors" principle. Which could and almost certainly would shut down an archive. That's why I wanted to know what was being considered.
he only thing I do feel strongly is that under-18s should not be ghetto-ized away. I agree as well. No one wants to be someone's ugly step-child and I wouldn't want to make underage fen feel that way. I don't know what the answer is, but I hope it's one that is respectful and safe for everyone.
I'm really not truly to be a big bad bully, I'm just trying to see what the consensus is and what we're considering.
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I must have missed that; I'll go look for it, thank you. The proposed 'theoretical' system would work and is essentially one of the option I foresaw.
My thoughts on this are also mixed. I didn't really get into fandom much before I was 18 and in my first fandom, I wasn't really interested in adult material so it was non-issue. However, my friend, who's been in fandom for almost 15 years was definitely underage when she got involved. I don't know what the answer is. The library isn't going to restrict books to children based on their perceived appropriateness for the age; they expect the parents to do that.
Unfortunately, for some reason, parents seem to think that they aren't responsible for what their children see online, the website is. It's an unfair double standard, but it's one we have to deal with.
And I wonder what the response is to under-18s writing the porn...!
I considered this, but I have no idea as to the answer. You can't stop underage people writing things based on age-appropriateness, but if you let them post them and don't let them read it seems hypocritical; I know. Search me on how to deal with it.
Yeah, but on an indirect harm principle - that something about the content will lead to children being harmed - as opposed to a direct harm principle where children are actually harmed by the existence of porn/the reading of porn.
I agree in relation to this latest issue, but I do think that a group of "concerned parentz" could hit an archive based on the "providing pornography to minors" principle. Which could and almost certainly would shut down an archive. That's why I wanted to know what was being considered.
he only thing I do feel strongly is that under-18s should not be ghetto-ized away. I agree as well. No one wants to be someone's ugly step-child and I wouldn't want to make underage fen feel that way. I don't know what the answer is, but I hope it's one that is respectful and safe for everyone.
I'm really not truly to be a big bad bully, I'm just trying to see what the consensus is and what we're considering.